What oil to run
  • rmzdirt7
    Posts: 28
    I usually use mobile-1 10w-40 synthetic oil made specifically for motorcycles. Since i got my 4-stroke 250, i used valvoline sae oil, made for ATV's. My dirtbike is an all terrain vehicle and its safe for my wet clutch and all, should i keep using it or switch to motorcycle oil? And also it is ok to use engine degreaser on my chain after each ride?
    2007 rmz-290
    2003 xr-80
    1999 rm-125
  • sean
    Posts: 4,120
    your dirt bike is a motorcycle, use motorcycle oil, what is it a Honda if so use Honda pro 10/40 like the manual says, at least use motorcycle oils,, why would you use degreaser???? I put grease on mine after every ride,atv is a motorcycle too
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  • sean
    Posts: 4,120
    my owners manuals of all my dirt bikes, pocket bikes, say to use motorcycle oil
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  • markyrocks
    Posts: 1,353
    Chain care kinda depends on the type of chain you have. Most people say kerosene is the best and safest way to clean a chain. Use either motor oil on roller chain to lube, chain wax on o ring or x ring style chain to lube. Degreaser on an oring or xring style chain is bad. Will most likely crack,rot, deteriorate the rubber seals due to the corrosive nature of degreaser. The seals go. Chain goes shortly there after.
  • sean
    Posts: 4,120
    I simply use WD 40 with a rag to clean when I wash my bike after every ride then regrease
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  • markyrocks
    Posts: 1,353
    Wd 40 is terrible for oring or xring chain. It penetrates past the seals dilutes the grease inside and evaporates leaving the rollers dry and chain will wearing like crazy. I guess it ok for roller style chain.
  • CRWOODS
    Posts: 477
    Wd40 is good for displacing water from reg chain after a wash
  • sean
    Posts: 4,120
    I used it on all kinds of chains for years,I wd it wipe it off and spray lithium Grease on it,been doing this for long time, my grandfather is a H A he does some to his chopper,he says something cr said forreal I use to do commercial sprinkler systems and the vicks need grease,we ran out so I bought wd at lunch and used it he said it will eat the rubber in tne vick so I got a vick rubber and soaked it in wd for a week just to see if it would eat it,,it did nothing to it
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  • markyrocks
    Posts: 1,353
    When was this?
  • sean
    Posts: 4,120
    I wd everything, I wipe my plastics with WD
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  • sean
    Posts: 4,120
    When was what,after every ride
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  • Maple Leaf MXMaple Leaf MX
    Posts: 12,849
    Wd wont hurt the o or x rings on chains. I prefer using maxima chain clean then scrub with nylon brush then hit with shout then garden hose and wipe down and re lube. Victaulic sean?
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  • markyrocks
    Posts: 1,353
    Scroll to bottom of the page http://www.webbikeworld.com/t2/motorcycle-chain-lube/ I'm sure I could find 10 more articles in 5 min saying similar stuff.
  • sean
    Posts: 4,120
    Wd never hurt nothing I ever owned.victaulic what's that? maple I'm not trying Wd never hurt nothing I ever owned.victaulic what's that? maple I'm not trying without the dictionary manto whip out the dictionary man
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  • Maple Leaf MXMaple Leaf MX
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    Wtfs a vick? Sprinkler system 2 bolt clamp system cuzzin?
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  • markyrocks
    Posts: 1,353
    Well dude ur wondering why ur chain stretching like a fat girl stretching out a pair of spandex.....
  • sean
    Posts: 4,120
    They do say that marky I'm not arguing that,its just never hurt nothing I ever owned ,I know alot of bikers that use wd
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  • sean
    Posts: 4,120
    You mike be right marky
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  • Maple Leaf MXMaple Leaf MX
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    Marky is a former troll
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  • markyrocks
    Posts: 1,353
    I b mark not Mike.
  • sean
    Posts: 4,120
    sprinkler systems in buildings, the pipes have Vics to hold them together they have like a rubber oring in them to seal the water from leaking
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  • sean
    Posts: 4,120
    I thought it stretched couse it was new,but it seems like ever time I ride I have to tighten it, axle bolt is tight its the chain,
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  • markyrocks
    Posts: 1,353
    I just read about the soaking rubber in wd40. Its really not about the seal itself. From my best understanding its the fact that wd40 is a penetrating degreaser/ mild lubricant. It penetrates past the seal of o ring chain an degreases the lube that comes from the factory that never supposed to get touched by anything. The oring seals in the lube seal out dirt. It eliminates the good lube and leaves its crap mild oil behind which is essentially nothing. I'm sure this don't happen over night but I'm willing to bet it excellerates chain wear.

    That why a oring chain only need cleaned an wax BC the factory lube stays inside the ring for life of the chain once it gone its gone. As far as roller style chain wd40 displaces water, it prolly displacing you lube aswell.
  • CRWOODS
    Posts: 477
    I had to tighten the chain on my sons 80 after every ride. That bike or my son was hard on chains and sproks. On a regular chain it's not unusual to have slack after one or 2 rides on a 2 stroke. I'm sure a 450 diesel wears out chains quick.
  • sean
    Posts: 4,120
    I always heard wd eats the rubber that's why I tryed it.. I like testing the theory like the new lithium batteries for drills are stronger n last longer,,its bullshlt
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  • Maple Leaf MXMaple Leaf MX
    Posts: 12,849
    Im so confused. Good quality x ring chains hardly evet need adjustment
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  • markyrocks
    Posts: 1,353
    Nothing wrong with being scientific. If it wasn't for science we'd still be riding two rocks with a tree limb across them. I was just explaining myself better. Fyi maple, Sean using roller style (I'm guessing factory) chain.
  • CRWOODS
    Posts: 477
    Bro less weight is the easiest performance boost
  • sean
    Posts: 4,120
    Yeah it factory marky the bike is about amonth old or so
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  • sean
    Posts: 4,120
    When I have to replace ill buy oring
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  • sean
    Posts: 4,120
    what is the difference between oring in X ring chains
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  • markyrocks
    Posts: 1,353
    Xring seal has twice the contact points half as much contact area meaning more sealing less friction. Seals last longer prolonging chain life.
  • sean
    Posts: 4,120
    So there better then oring
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  • sean
    Posts: 4,120
    I had a few orings befor
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  • markyrocks
    Posts: 1,353
    Yes xring better than oring.
  • sean
    Posts: 4,120
    Om,,thanks ill try pics again tomorrow
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