Ktm 144sx
  • I am new to dirtbikes. I bought a 2008 ktm 144sx that needs work. But I'm not sure what Its going to cost me. The dude I got it from said it needs rods and rings. Said rod had play in it. I was going to replace whole crank. The kick starter will go down with ease of the hand. What am I looking at to get fixed can anyone give me pointers or anything else to be fixed or any other ideas. I'm not certain the guy knew what he was talking about.
  • Kiwi450xKiwi450x
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    You need NZrider or MJP or the like to chip in on this.

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  • NZriderNZrider
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    I cant tell you whats wrong with your  bike from here but you can check it out yourself. is the cylinder off it? its easy enough to check the crank once the top end is apart.

    the only other thing i'd be concerned about is the cylinder/head condition. when things come apart the cylinder is easily scored and bits can damage the head when they get sandwiched behind the piston.

    if you want to do the rebuild on the cheap then getting a new conrod installed is generally ther money saver option over replacing the whole crank. an experienced motorcycle mechanic can assemble the new rod kit for you for about a half hours labour cost.
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  • No it's all put together I just got it last night haven't had time to mess with it yet and don't know much about it. Any recommend machine shops? I'm going to check it out tomorrow. What do I look for when checking crank.
  • NZriderNZrider
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    you have to check for any vertical play. any vertical play at all indicates a damaged bearing. there will be some axial play, maybe up to a millimetre. the last thing is to rotate the crank via the conrod. it should rotate smoothly with no notches or noises.

    I cant recommend any machine shops sorry dude. all the ones i know will require you to ship internationally :-)
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  • We'll when I bought bike he said it needed rings and the rods had play in it. My dad know how to do most things to an engine do you think we could do the crank or would I need to take it to someone
  • PaulB14PaulB14
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    that depends on you and your dad.   You obviously need a repair manual for it.  If you are going to take it somewhere, I would tear it down to the bare bones on your own time and give only the part you can't handle.   If you want to tackle the work on your own we can offer a little help 

    As mentioned, the first thing to do is take the top end apart and check the rod/crank yourself to determine what needs to be fixed (or not, as the case may be).   We can take it up from there...
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  • Alright I'm going to take it apart tomorrow. I will let y'all know something
  • Sorry to come in late.

    To begin, and using KTM bases pricing, a 2008 144SX piston assembly, rings and all but gaskets, will run you around $160 US on average. The connecting rod (conrod) repair kit will run you around $250 and the complete crank assembly is just over $400, all US prices. You might get lucky and it only needs bearings, which run about $40 each, but unless you have a press and truing stand, you will need a shop to do the repair for you. To be honest, unless you have a case splitter and possibly a crank puller, you are going to have to have a shop do the work anyway. In no way should you try and split cases without a splitter. I have seen people try and do it with other means and end up having to buy new cases, and those are not cheap by any means.

    To get to the conrod, you will need to get the top end off, and to get to that you need to remove the tank, radiators (at times), and possibly a few other aspects outside of the radiator shrouds and such. Loosen the head bolts in a star pattern and do not take the nuts off all at once. Release the pressure slowly so you do not warp the head. The same goes with the cylinder (jug) as well. Though it will not warp as easily, if at all, you still need to release the pressure on each nut slowly so you do not damage any threads or the like. Do a good visual check of the cylinder and I suggest you also do a bore and taper check as well to see how it is and if it is in factory spec. or not.

    Next, like NZ stated, check for play at the connecting rod. Vertical movement means you need to split the cases, but you need to measure the lateral movement and check it against factory specs to see if the cases need split then to get the conrod assembly repaired or replaced. Chances are that if you can move the kicker then you have not had any damage to the cylinder and such, but that means nothing for the crank. Slow movement by working the kicker with your hand is in no way the same as having that engine working at 4000 RPM and having issues of a bad crank.


    Get the service manual and follow what it says and you will be fine. Good luck and keep us posted.

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  • im in the process of replating the cylinder and replacing the piston and crank on my 08 sx 144. if i was you id replace the crank and piston, easy insurence. im no master mechanic but if you a little mechanical know how and dont get in a rush its not difficult. also if you decide to replace the crank on your own i would wait to split the cases till you have the new crank in hand an ready to install. there is an awsome deal on ebay for a hotrods bottom end rebuild kit.
    2008 SX 144, 2005 KDX 220, 1986 TT 350, 2004 YZF 250, 2001 YZ 250

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