motor oil coming out of my exhaust pipe on a YZ250
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  • I have motor oil coming out of my exhaust pipe on a 2000 Yamaha Yz250. Can anyone help me with this? I just rebuilt the bottom end of it and it has new gaskets and seals.
  • TheDirtRiderTheDirtRider
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    Is it pre mix or the tranny oil?
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  • DLHamblinDLHamblin
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    How much oil are we talking about?

    I assume it wasn't doing this before the bottom end rebuild?
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  • six5six5
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    Isn't that pretty normal for a two stroke? I know my old YZ250 did that. It ran down almost the full length of the exhaust by the end of a ride. I guess it depends on how much is oozing out.
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  • Its tranny oil....its literaly dripping out the head of my motor....
  • more than what should be comin out......no it wasnt doing this before rebuild
  • DT JasonDT Jason
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    thats crazy talk....but i suppose it means your crank seals are finished....you should change them
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  • TheDirtRiderTheDirtRider
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    What do you mean dripping out of the head? Do you mean the powervalve breather hose??
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  • I mean drippin out of the head.....right where the exhaust pipe goes on
  • DT JasonDT Jason
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    dont know what to tell you man....a few people told you wat it could be but you say it cant be that ...perhaps a seal wasnt isnt installed properly....perhaps you overfilled the tranny with oil but even then if should just over flow out the breather before it blew past the crank seals....other than that im not sure if theres something else that could cause tranny oil to get in there on a 2 stroke....on a 4 stroke id say the rings are finished....but on a 2 stroke if its getting into the crank i think the only way it could is if the crank seals are finished or installed incorrectly
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  • CDBurnsCDBurns
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    How 'bout pic(s)?
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  • NZriderNZrider
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    what colour is it?
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  • PowerPlayVAPowerPlayVA
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    Tranny oil from the cylinder? You need to talk to whoever did the bottom end... and smack em. :)
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  • NZriderNZrider
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    i cant imagine trans oil coming out the header pipe, its more likely premix build up
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  • PowerPlayVAPowerPlayVA
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    Yeah, thats what I was assuming.
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  • CDBurnsCDBurns
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    I think with a few pics we could help a lot more...
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  • why? whats that mean?
  • its motor oil and its comin out where the pipe goes on the head....its not premix
  • i fill tranny up to where runs out check bolt on side. start it up blows white smoke an tranny emptys into cylinder. either seal or not sealing halves togather. i cant tell wat or witch one it is 4 sure.
  • PowerPlayVAPowerPlayVA
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    Either way tear it apart and you should be able to see the problem. How long does it take to fill the cylinder/bottom end?
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  • I did tear it apart....cant tell where its comin from....it doesnt take long the piston probably goes up and down 4 or 5 times, so maybe a minute. this is my first time doing the bottom end. Using Moto1 sealant for the case halves.
  • PowerPlayVAPowerPlayVA
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    Wow if its doing it in about a minute you should definately be able to see the issue.
    Got any pics, I'm sure it would be an easy diagnosis with some.
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  • I dont know how to post pics. I've already got it torn down again.....
  • bikerdude11bikerdude11
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    The piston goes up and down 4 or 5 times in a minute?? :?
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  • I dont know how many times it goes up and down in a minute....was using it as an example
  • PowerPlayVAPowerPlayVA
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    Can you email them to me?

    charles@powerplayva.com if you csn
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  • i'm sendin, now, i only have the left side off
  • PowerPlayVAPowerPlayVA
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    Wow. I would assume a bad seal or not seated correctly , or a gasket leak. With it filling the crank case that fast, I thought the problem would be noticable.
    I'll post the pics for some other opinions. It may be hard to confidently diagnose with just pictures, but maybe someone else has had the same issue.

    If it were mine I would thouroughly clean everything, make sure all gasket and seal surfaces and clean and straight. Install new seals and gaskets.
    And maybe a little cleaner job on the sealer.

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  • Ok thanks!!
  • PowerPlayVAPowerPlayVA
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    No problem, I know thats a %$#% to have happen.
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  • Maple Leaf MXMaple Leaf MX
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    2 much mountain dews ur problem..
    Expect to die whenever but dream to live forever

    ..the good times on the old DR board will never be back! RIP!
  • Maple Leaf MXMaple Leaf MX
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    wut kinda sealant did ya use? id scrape the old stuff off and clean up the surgaces REAL good...apply nice and thin and neat with yamabond three bond or sumhin good....get back to us
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  • It's Moto1. What's the difference between yamabond and moto1?
  • PowerPlayVAPowerPlayVA
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    Any decent sealer is fine as long as it is applied as needed, and on clean straight surfaces.
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  • what do you use?
  • PowerPlayVAPowerPlayVA
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    All of my lubes/sealers are Yamma.
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  • when u put it on do u wait before putting them together or do u put it on and slap them together? The directions say to apply and then wait 1 minute and then bolt parts together using normal specs. but ive done that and it isnt working. also how much is too much? the first time i did it i put it real thin and i was told it wasnt enough, so the 2nd time i put it real thick (hence the mess) and that didnt work either. :?
  • PowerPlayVAPowerPlayVA
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    All it takes is a thin bead, let the gasket do its job.
    The timing is not really too important.
    Just clean everything.. twice. Take your time. Make sure the mating surfaces are clean and smooth, no burrs or pits. Use torque specs.
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  • PowerPlayVAPowerPlayVA
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    Check and make sure your bearings are seated as well.
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  • NZriderNZrider
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    PowerPlayVAAll it takes is a thin bead, let the gasket do its job.
    The timing is not really too important.
    Just clean everything.. twice. Take your time. Make sure the mating surfaces are clean and smooth, no burrs or pits. Use torque specs.
    there is no gasket between case halves on the yamahas only sealant
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  • PowerPlayVAPowerPlayVA
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    That was a general gasket/sealer/rebuild statement. :)
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  • Got it fixed and runnin good. Thanks for your time in helpin me. Just one more question, when im in neutral it revs up good, but when in gear and almost pinned it starts breaking up before it hits the revlimiter? What would cause this and what can i adjust to get it to stop?
  • The only way you can have gear oil making its way through the crank cavity and up through the cylinder is if the crank case seal is blown . OR ... The oil seals that cover each crank bearing are worn bad enough to allow that much oil to come through. If your mixing your fuel way too rich it will definitely drip from the exhaust can and also blow out where the header connects to the cylinder. A good ratio to start with has allways been 32:1, mix 1 gallon and run it then maybe try leaning it out slightly. But remember ...check your sparkplug often , you want your sparkplug to allways be the color of a brown paper bag . Not black (= too rich) ,,,,,,,and definitly not white ,,,(= too lean and ready to blow) hehe... they allways seem to sound the fastest right before that last POP! :o A word of advice ,,,the guys that might tell you they run their 2-strokes at 40:1 and higher , are usually the guys that go through alot of top ends. A stock Yamaha piston and rings for that bike and year are inexpensive and will last an entire summer if not longer , IF ,you get the correct mixture , the correct jetting and and replace the leaky seals and gaskets. When you pull the top end apart , everything should be finly lubed , not flooded with oil. Many premix's these days are red and many tranny oils are also red , so it comes down to leaning it out SLIGHTLY, and if that doesnt solve it, chase down the leak. Besides , the bike wont spark at all if its flooded with tranny oil.Where are you located ?Im a mechanic for one of the top amature riders in the state of texas and weve learned how to refine his YZ250 by trial and error and now ....hes pushin 51 horses and smokes the 450's .....hehehe ,,,dont hesitate to ask if ya have any more ?'s about that 250 Bud ,,,,good luck ,Lee ( Lgrawunder@rgv.rr.com)
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  • yzwoodzz
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    good advice.
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    Fastway knows his chit in MOP.
  • DeucinDeucin
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    Why is his chit in MOP?
  • If you put correct amount of oil @(26)oz in bike an started it, At a idle for a few seconds It was pushing oil past crank seal lip. An up into cyclinder an out head pipe.I got a new seal an got it fixed up now with yamalube gasket maker.
  • iCool247iCool247
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    fruitloopz00Got it fixed and runnin good. Thanks for your time in helpin me. Just one more question, when im in neutral it revs up good, but when in gear and almost pinned it starts breaking up before it hits the revlimiter? What would cause this and what can i adjust to get it to stop?
    2strokes don't have rev limiters. If it did, you would never be able to hit the sweet powerband ! :D
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