Yamaha YZ250F or WR250F
  • Hi i have a Yamaha TTR230 4 stroke and i'm looking for another bike, i have 2 choices, a yz250f or a wr250f,
    I understand that the yz is a racing bike and the wr is a trail, but which one would be better???????
    please help

    image[bold]YZ250F[/bold]

    image[bold]YZ250F[/bold]

    image[bold]WR250F[/bold]

    image[bold]WR250F[/bold]
  • yzrider2yzrider2
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    well wat type of ridding are u going to be doing mostly track and some trail yz mostly trail and little track wr there both great bikes
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  • I don't do any racing but ride trails and so a few jumps
    But ride my bikes hard nearly all the time
  • i was thinking of getting a ktm but sense i've had a yamaha i thought i'd stick with them, had no problems
    Also i've got a TTR230 Yamaha 2005 model, how much could i get for this if i put it out on the market???
  • I think it depends how agressive of rider you are. The YZ is not exactly a trail bike as it is a racer, but still make a great trail bike, IMO. I would think the WR is maybe not as fast or quick, but there wouldn't be a place you couldn't go. Lastly, the supspension may be more dialed or geared for the trails..maybe.
  • does the yz250f have power band like the yz250 2 stroke
  • I wouldn't be the best to answer that as I am a 2-stroker and always will be. The 4-strokes do not have the distictive power band like the two strokes. But they are quick. When I was researching before I bought my bike, one guy told me there like the indy cars of motocross. Very suped up 4-strokes. I have rod some since and there fun and all, but I love the smell, sound and feel of a two stroker. Th WR is not gping to perform like your YZ, talking perfornace that is.
  • so when i go to buy one i know i'm better off getting a new one but if i go for a second hand one what should i look out for???
  • I bought my bike new and not sure if I would do it again. You have to look, but there are people out there that take really good care for their bikes and you can tell when you go look at it and talking with them. Also save you a lot of money. Hearing what they did for maintenence can go a long way. You want to find a rider that is very paticular about his bike and knows what their doing with it. I am a basic engine guy. I do all the maint., but when my engin needs to ripped apart I have a mechanic do it for me. I'd screw something up! I would start a new thread about what to be looking for in a bike, when looking at bikes? These guys will fill you in. I have learned a lot from this website. Later bro!
  • yzrider2yzrider2
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    well like kx says if u get the yz250f u have to be agreesive id get that the wr has mods u can to do to make it faster like the yz kit for it but id get a yz250f imo
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  • ok thanks, because i've had bad experience with second hand bikes, i bought a kawasaki 175 and it looked in great condition and went well for a few days and then the motor blew, that was a 2 stroke, that's what put me off 2 strokes, then bought a suzuki 125, that didn't go too bad, then went out and bought a new ttr230, but out grown it looking at buying another bike.
  • i was just looking on ebay and the have a YZ450F, it's all good, do you guys reckon this would be too big of a power change for me, a 450 would probably be no good for tearing around the bush
    Info needed
  • csullycsully
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    alright...well, i've ridden the WR250 and briefly the YZ450F....it's a lot of bike. I mean, it's fun, a LOT of fun. and from what I can see, it's awesome on the trails. but it's also the kind of bike you really need to have a good grasp on your riding ability to be able to handle especially coming from a 230....i think it's a pretty big jump to go from the ttr which is more of a mellow bike, to a full race bike.

    the WR is a good bike...especially stepping off of your 230. you will notice an IMMENSE difference in suspension and power compared to your bike. it's actually a very quick bike too....i found that first gear was even a bit tall for my likes. If you're riding trails a lot, one thing you will LOVE about the WR is the electric start. having to kick over the yz-f after if tips is not going to be fun...especially if you're in precarious areas.
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  • gospel truth
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    i came from a crf 230f,i was mad i didnt buy a 250f,so when i upgraded i got the 450f(hondacrf450x)more of a race bike,i do mostly trails,long story ,my newest scoot is a 05wr450f bought it brand new of the showroom floor(awsome deal)this bike was corked up,probably a little slower than a yz250f.in my and only my opinion is this the perfect bike.you can start on a tame super easy package,and unwrap it a little at a time as you get more experiance,plus the cost of 250 to450 really isnt that big of a gap.take your time research,what you like to do ,where you like to do it,and if your freinds ride the same bikes its easier to work on them together also .if anyone is interested 06crf450x still for sale!
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  • Not sure how old you are, but don't be afraid to go to a dealership and test ride these. When I bought my bike I rode the hondas, yamis and the kawis.
  • gospel truth
    Posts: 1,480
    dealers around me look at ya strange for sittin on the bikes,test ride?(whats-that?)
    i dont get resentments i give um
  • Yea, Ive seen that! But if you have some cash or good credit for financing. Make damn sure you ride before you buy, or move on! Good luck buddy!
  • elko6elko6
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    Hmm well lets consider the yz250f has a tendency to overheat when riding at a slower pace, and the valves will start to mushroom from riding at a slow pace. So my vote if for the wr250f. Also the wr250f can handle jumps although its not a racing bike. The wr250f will have a suspension better tuned for trails.
  • PaulB14PaulB14
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    elko6Hmm well lets consider the yz250f has a tendency to overheat when riding at a slower pace, and the valves will start to mushroom from riding at a slow pace. So my vote if for the wr250f. Also the wr250f can handle jumps although its not a racing bike. The wr250f will have a suspension better tuned for trails.
    excellent post elko, and I vote for the wr for the same reasons, as well as Courtney's comment about the electric start. A buddy of mine rides the yz250f in the mountains with us and its kinda annoying waiting for him to restart his bike when we stop for some reason. It just doesn't like trails and high elevation.
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  • alex18327alex18327
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    i made the TTR mistake last year... my kids nicknamed it the TTTTTURD. the advantages with the WR (IMO) are the kickstand, elec start and headlight. the WR and the YZ have different cams and flywheel weights and the YZ's ignition is more advanced so it's gonna get hotter quicker... but in exchange for the bike heating up faster (which shouldn't be an issue anyway) you get more pep. tough call as they are both great bikes, way more fun that the 230.
  • well i'm 16 and have been riding for 6 years, been through a few bikes, i understand that the yz will overheat going through the trails cause they need the air to be going through to cool the down, and yes the wr does has the positive of the eletric start because if the bike stalls at any time or on a hill (that's a *** you can just start it up, and also it has a light which is good.
    Plus the wr, could get road registered also, so at the moment the wr has more positives,

    What do you guys ride, race bikes, or the trail bikes??/
  • sanderssanders
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    rocks i think you should get the wr! that would probably work best for you
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  • so have you got any info for the wr that could help
  • elko6elko6
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    yamaha_rockswell i'm 16 and have been riding for 6 years, been through a few bikes, i understand that the yz will overheat going through the trails cause they need the air to be going through to cool the down, and yes the wr does has the positive of the eletric start because if the bike stalls at any time or on a hill (that's a *** you can just start it up, and also it has a light which is good.
    Plus the wr, could get road registered also, so at the moment the wr has more positives,

    What do you guys ride, race bikes, or the trail bikes??/
    A cr125 going to be an 09 or 2010 yz250 or ktm 250sx. For trails and track. Don't have to worry about overheating on trails, will always be fast and are cheap to maintain and fix. If I went the way of the 4 stroke I would probably get the wr250f although I do mostly track riding. Just because I don't have to spend a crap load of money to keep it running. Now if the race models were more reliable I would get one of them.
  • I ride a 07' KX 250. I got it because I love 2-strokes for trail riding. They give the power I want and I am just not ready for a 4-stroke yet, mentally. I think when I get a new bike in about 5 years I will get something like the WR; Its quick, great suspension, Elect. start, lights, ect... Take a look at the total weights of the WR and compare that to the other bikes you look at. A big jump in weight can take some getting used to, but at 16 your should be man enough!! :)
  • sanderssanders
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    the wr is a good ok bike stock but when you clip the gray wire install the yz throttle stop, & get the G2? i think it it somthing like that & they make a power back kit that will give the bike hella more powerful! the bike suspension wise is supposed to be a good off road suspension that can handle light track duty. so i think it would work for you & it will be a hell of a lot better better for you than a yz
    DavidS
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    People like theonetheycallsuzuki are the reason the general public hates dirt bikes & want to close our trails
  • sanderssanders
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    90 yz 250
    DavidS
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    terrain type woods with lots of roots & rocks
    People like theonetheycallsuzuki are the reason the general public hates dirt bikes & want to close our trails
  • ok thanks heaps, well i'm going so sell my ttr and buy one because everytime i go riding i go bush and stuff, but there is huge straights where i go too and i'm riding my bike too hard, a couple of times i've had it full pin but that wouldn't be good for the bike,

    Also i ride my friends crf125 and that's small but good for doing jumps i reckon.
  • PaulB14PaulB14
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    '05KTM300exc I like it because I can use the 2stroke power band when I want to, but still have the torque I need on the bottom end for mountains, rocks and logs you encounter on the trails.
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  • elko6elko6
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    Pinning a yz250f is not a smart thing to do.
  • csullycsully
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    i currently have an 06 CRF230F....but i spent quite a few hours on a WR250 recently...trust me, it's a huge step from the 230...you'll love it. it's a little heavy in comparison, but you're young, so you can handle it :)
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    "Only the desert has a fascination to ride alone in the sun in the forever unpossessed country away from man. That is a great temptation."
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  • does the front end of the bike pick up easy,
  • csullycsully
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    yes. and it hops over whoops pretty easily. i can handle many more on the WR than i can on my 230. it's a really peppy bike in comparison to your 230.
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    -Courtney

    "Only the desert has a fascination to ride alone in the sun in the forever unpossessed country away from man. That is a great temptation."
    --D.H. Lawrence
  • because with my 230 it's harder, but once you get the hang of it it's easier, but i guess the wr250 would be easier because it's bigger better and has more grunt
  • csullycsully
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    whoops and pumps are so much different compared to your 230...it takes some getting used to but you'll like it....it's got more power and better suspension.
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    -Courtney

    "Only the desert has a fascination to ride alone in the sun in the forever unpossessed country away from man. That is a great temptation."
    --D.H. Lawrence
  • should know but i don't, what do you mean by pumps??????
  • csullycsully
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    i mean bumps! hahaha....opps, typo!
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    -Courtney

    "Only the desert has a fascination to ride alone in the sun in the forever unpossessed country away from man. That is a great temptation."
    --D.H. Lawrence
  • HA HA that's funny :D :D


    So it goes over the BUMPS easier because of the better suspension
  • csullycsully
    Posts: 6,635
    yes, yes it does :)

    hahaha....sorry dude.
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    "Only the desert has a fascination to ride alone in the sun in the forever unpossessed country away from man. That is a great temptation."
    --D.H. Lawrence
  • that's all cool, i was doing a bit of research on the wr250f and some bikes have a 5-speed and others 6-speed, whats with that,
  • BigHoop
    Posts: 17
    My first bike was a TTR-230 (at age 32) That bike was a lot of fun and great to learn on...I then bought a used YZ250F...First, this is a big jump in power...but fun...a couple of things...the YZ was AWESOME on the MX track...handle great took all the hits and landings and always had the power I needed...but off road it had it's limitations...first the suspension was a little stiff...this would lead to deflection in tricky rock/rut situations...and once this bike was hot...starting it was a *** In fact that was the main reason I bought a new 07 KTM 450XC...electric start...and the 450 was another huge step up in power...it took more than a full year before I was totally comfortable riding that bike.

    After that long boring story...I would say get a used WR-250...even though I bought new...It was a waste...I could have saved thousands of dollars and still had an awesome bike (with lots of aftermarket items already on it)
  • that's true, because most of the new bikes have standard things but when you get a used one it has many extras, i agree, will get a second hand one
  • csullycsully
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    you can look at it both ways....buying a used bike you always run the risk of it not being well maintained and costing you a lot more money....
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    -Courtney

    "Only the desert has a fascination to ride alone in the sun in the forever unpossessed country away from man. That is a great temptation."
    --D.H. Lawrence
  • elko6elko6
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    For the wr I would take the chance of buying used. On the yz250f I would not take the chance. The wr is less likely to end up blowing within the first year because it is more durable and more reliable.

    Also I wouldn't say used bikes have aftermarket stuff on it or that the aftermarket stuff is better. Most things people put on bikes are aftermarket but they are necessary and don't really add anything to the bike. Like sprockets and chains and handlebars are already aftermarket. The only aftermarket thing that is actually worth mentioning is exhausts, top end work, and clutches. Buying used is taking a big chance. I know of plenty of people that thought they were buying a bike in good shape and had that same state of mind that it has aftermarket stuff on it, until not even half a year later I am dropping a lot of money into my bike to get it fixed. That is when I learned that I will never buy used again and that most OEM parts are better then aftermarket.
  • yeh, because sometimes they make them look all good and you buy and a week later they *** up, i've had that problem, but i bought my 230 new but that was only cause i had the money, at the moment i've only got enough for a used one, but if you look around and not just getting the first one you see, that's what i've learned
  • and another thing, all you guys probaly have bikes and you's are mates and ride together, i've got mates but all they like too do is play the sony all day, yeh they ride bikes but on playsatations, i've got a couple of mates who have bikes, my brothers have bikes also and so does dad so that's who i mainly ride with, or by myself, but it's more fun with more people

    You guys would know, more fun eh
  • PaulB14PaulB14
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    its WAY cool to have a group of riding buddies!
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  • elko6elko6
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    After my neighbors moved away I pretty much ride by myself now.
  • YEH I BET IT WOULD BE, INSTEAD I GOT BATS THAT DON'T LIKE THE SUN, STAY IN THERE ROOMS.







    I CAN'T FIND ANYTHING BETTER THAN JUMPING ON MY BIKE AND TEARING UP THE TRAILS
  • sanderssanders
    Posts: 9,990
    haha im with you on that one!!
    DavidS
    "im gona' find my freedom brother you should to if you don't find it now you'll be one year older when you do.......

    ___________________
    rides: 02yz426 02 summit 800 & 01cr250
    local: north east Oregon

    terrain type woods with lots of roots & rocks
    People like theonetheycallsuzuki are the reason the general public hates dirt bikes & want to close our trails
  • yzrider2yzrider2
    Posts: 2,839
    true u caN GET THE REAL THING out of a sony
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